Has any one seen or heard of the new spider raven? I saw it on the kingman sight and i think its pretty nice looking. Only thing is i dont got over 500$ to spend lol. Well check it out anyway...

is that the same thing as just a raven.. because ive never heard of a spyder raven but ive heard of a raven, and i know there expensive.. but no i never even heard of a spyer raven.

Its actually called the Raven Primal, Raven is a spyder branch of company. The gun is devinatly nice, first gun they tried putting eyes in, first gun they made electro puenumatic, supose to be a very nice gun, i think the price has also dropped to about 400 or lower. It looks like a very solid strong gun, like all kingmans are, but they did a good job, looks good to me.

what excatly does electro pneumatic mean.. it may sound stupid but im not 100 percent sure.. but i sort of have an idea.

Its an operation of a gun. Spyders are blow back, meaning air blows back the bolt and a spring pushes it forward, w/ electro pnuematic guns, its all ram driven which means all air ussage. Air pushes it forward and backwards, which means lower pressures of operation, easier on pb's, less kick, and very smooth operation.