[Madshoer]

which is better, the PMI Piranha E-Force EXT Pro 2k4, or a Spyder E99 (not advent)????

[Tippyman14]

Go with the spyder, stay as far away from pirahna as possible, ecxept for the STS, but anyway, go with the spyder.

[Madshoer]

is there a way that i can tell the differance between the sypder e99, and the advant for ebay when they dont have close pics??? is the BKO any good?

[ThunderStruck]

it says avant** on the avants. but other than that no.

[BrokenMonkey]

I would try to stay away from both personally, because pirannhas are really crappy, and the E-99 breaks alot, also about the E-99, If you want to go fully auto, you will need a new expansion chamber, my friend who has one can't go full auto on his because of it.

[Madshoer]

what about the BKO, or B2K?

[ThunderStruck]

b2k is so much better than all of those guns listed. get that. no question.

[Madshoer]

http://www.zephyrpaintball.com/category/markers.indiancreek/ y do some of them have the arm thing, and some dont?

[ThunderStruck]

its just the picture, if u click it, it says its not included.

[BrokenMonkey]

Yeah, I agree with Thunderstruck, go with the B2K you wont regret it.

[Madshoer]

but will i need to get one of those arm thingys? wut is it called?! i know im a newb... also i need if possible a pakage, like a mask, and tank, and hopper and the $$$ if any1 knows that sutff, or knows were to look it up. i need everything that you need to play

[BrokenMonkey]

I think you're talking about a bottemline, no it's not neccisary, you can screw in the tank directly the the gun, but I reccomend one. Anyways, you can buy a mask for about $20 bucks, a tank which depends on wheter you buy C02 or N2. C02 will run you about $20 also, but N2(which is alot better) will be about $80-120. You can just but a regular hopper for about $5, and that would be all you need to start.

[Tippyman14]

Oh yah, go with the B2k for sure, I didn't know that was in your options or I would suggested it from the start. They are awesome for the price!

[ThunderStruck]

I think you're talking about a bottemline, no it's not neccisary, you can screw in the tank directly the the gun, but I reccomend one.  Anyways, you can buy a mask for about $20 bucks, a tank which depends on wheter you buy C02 or N2.  C02 will run you about $20 also, but N2(which is alot better)  will be about $80-120.  You can just but a regular hopper for about $5, and that would be all you need to start.

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thats wrong, if u buy the gun new, its just the gun, the feedneck and the barrel. thats all that comes with it. you need to buy a dropforward(optional but good), an on/off ASA(NEEDED), halo b(NEEDED), for this gun u hafta run N2. then other optional things are ur basic upgrades, barrel, bolt. etc....prices:

dropforward...15-30$
ASA...20$ roughly
halo b...50-70$
n2(steel) 50 bucks (bad tho)
n2(fiberwrapped) 90-215$
masks...cheap masks(bad quality) 20-45$
masks better quality...80$

ps. broken monkey. u cannot just screw it in to the gun.

[Madshoer]

so i HAVE to have all that stuff?